Hi all,
Im looking for some opinions on a machine that Im thinking about purchasing.
It is a Deckel FP2 Active, Square head. Spindle speeds up to 2500rpm serial number 2202-11203
It is a bit rough but the price seems to match the condition.
Known problems,
Spindle motor only works in second speed. Motor looks to be the correct one but is a different color. Will ask the seller if he knows anything about it.
Very loud noise from vertical spindle/Gears at higher speeds. It really becomes apparent at 630rpm and above. The noise is really rough/coarse, the seller says that it is in the vertical head gears before the bevel gears. I cant imaging what sort of state a spindle would have to be in to sound like that.
From a parts book I can see 3 small gears used to raise the drive shaft center up to meet the bevels. If it is in these Im assuming it wont be to bad/expensive to replace? But anything else is going to be $$$$. Is there any common fault or failure point with this unit? i'm not able to see the machine myself so is there anything that is easy for the seller to check to confirm what is going on?
Can any one tell me about the differences in vertical heads, specifically for swivelling the vertical head. Some have 4 bolts and some 6, (this one has 4) quite a few machines dont have the bolts at 3 and 9. I assume that these were added by Deckel on later machines to fix a problem?
When was the chain drive to reposition the vertical head introduced? or was it just an option you could order?
Y axis backlash is about 1 ¼ turns! but X is less than a ¼ turn. Z dont know. There has to be something else other than just wear to account for the Y axis?
Apparently the feed motor driver trips after about an hour of constant operation. No further info available. All rapids and feeds seem to work fine.
Active direction lights are all missing the yellow lens, no idea if the Active system is working or not.
Table is completely full of holes from drilling, not just one or 2, a real Swiss cheese. The quil fine feed knob on the left of the vertical head has been used enough to wear off some of the black and the nearby green paint has been completely worn off. Seems like an expensive drill press.
General condition from pictures is OK. Paint is not to bad, some chips around the head and most gone off the edge of the table. Nothing to suggest excessive abuse.
No real rust.
Any way, I would be interested in what people think of this and if you have any suggestions.
Thanks for your time.
Im looking for some opinions on a machine that Im thinking about purchasing.
It is a Deckel FP2 Active, Square head. Spindle speeds up to 2500rpm serial number 2202-11203
It is a bit rough but the price seems to match the condition.
Known problems,
Spindle motor only works in second speed. Motor looks to be the correct one but is a different color. Will ask the seller if he knows anything about it.
Very loud noise from vertical spindle/Gears at higher speeds. It really becomes apparent at 630rpm and above. The noise is really rough/coarse, the seller says that it is in the vertical head gears before the bevel gears. I cant imaging what sort of state a spindle would have to be in to sound like that.
From a parts book I can see 3 small gears used to raise the drive shaft center up to meet the bevels. If it is in these Im assuming it wont be to bad/expensive to replace? But anything else is going to be $$$$. Is there any common fault or failure point with this unit? i'm not able to see the machine myself so is there anything that is easy for the seller to check to confirm what is going on?
Can any one tell me about the differences in vertical heads, specifically for swivelling the vertical head. Some have 4 bolts and some 6, (this one has 4) quite a few machines dont have the bolts at 3 and 9. I assume that these were added by Deckel on later machines to fix a problem?
When was the chain drive to reposition the vertical head introduced? or was it just an option you could order?
Y axis backlash is about 1 ¼ turns! but X is less than a ¼ turn. Z dont know. There has to be something else other than just wear to account for the Y axis?
Apparently the feed motor driver trips after about an hour of constant operation. No further info available. All rapids and feeds seem to work fine.
Active direction lights are all missing the yellow lens, no idea if the Active system is working or not.
Table is completely full of holes from drilling, not just one or 2, a real Swiss cheese. The quil fine feed knob on the left of the vertical head has been used enough to wear off some of the black and the nearby green paint has been completely worn off. Seems like an expensive drill press.
General condition from pictures is OK. Paint is not to bad, some chips around the head and most gone off the edge of the table. Nothing to suggest excessive abuse.
No real rust.
Any way, I would be interested in what people think of this and if you have any suggestions.
Thanks for your time.