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High speed Alexander (?) head belt type

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I have mounted my High speed head on a Promjksa Deckel clone. The motor has a four step pulley and the quill three steps,so the belt always runs a bit cockeyed. The groove shapes seem to be that of a conventional pulley drive belt. My problem is that unless the belt is really loose, the motor will not start on a static convertor. Should the belt have a round section?.
I believe that the head is an Alexander as the speed chart is in English, but there are no manufacturers logos etc, though there is a part number (?) PG 104 on the ali base casting - any suggestions?
Frank

Fp3NC "Flip" rebuild (large, with photos)

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Thought i would make a post going over the current work i am engaged in with the repair/rebuild of my FP3NC flip head machine.
Some may remember that i got this machine some time ago. (longer than i care to remember). This has become a project taking on a life of its own.
I have posted several times on different aspects of the work...Rebuilding the chip enclosure, repair of the "X" axis ball screw. Refitting the screw after scraping in the "X" axis slide etc.
This machine is a perfect example of how to extend a project to consume all the available time. It is also a good study of how to spend way more than the base machine is currently worth.

The machine was given to me, free , i just had to move it from the Seattle area. It had suffered an accident. Previous owner attempted to move the machine via a rental truck fitted with a lift gate.
Well with the machine off the ground one of the hinge pins fail on the gate and the machine dropped to the concrete..................



Current part of the job involves fitting and checking the alignments of all the main sliding elements....."X" axis, and "Z" axis. (the "Y" will come later).

After some consideration i decided to have the main vertical casting "Z" axis box ways reground. Now this was a tough decision. I had a shop in mind, Schaffer Grinding in sSouthern California.
I have used them before in a regrind of my Monarch EE bed and a Clausing Colchester for work. Never any mill parts. The job i got form them on the lathe work was very nice, so i thought they would be
the logical choice.
The real road block was transportation. Putting an 800# casting, the heart of a machine, on a pallet and shipping it south and then expecting it to return in good shape after a precision grind left me a bit quezy.

My partner here ,as things would have it, was going to LA to fetch some old car parts for one of his many projects....OK could be a solution, as he was driving a pickup,but his trip was on a fast turn around.
I called Schaffer and they agreed to turn the parts around in one day and a delivery date was set.....

Here is the main casting on a pallet ready for the trip to LA..





The casting was dropped off on a Thursday morning and picked up on the following Friday, work completed.
The work order called for grinding the face of both box sections flat and to the same height.
The inside face between the box faces was also ground parallel as was the back side lip of the box.....
I made a set of drawings and solid works 3-D models detailing what i needed along with my contact number.

When the casting returned, everything looked very good. Good finishes on all the worked surfaces. A quick micrometer check gave a rough test as to the job done
on the back of the box lip. More testing was in order...the next phase.....

More to follow

Cheers Ross

Heads up, if you see a Deckel or two on Hilton Head Island Craigs List...it's a scam

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Someone basically copied many of the machines from my website and posted them on CL. Kinda funny they picked HHI CL as that would be would of the last places on earth to contain any inhabitants that have even heard the name Deckel, much less want to buy one. But I figured you guys with coast to coast CL search might pick up on the ad....'taint me.

Arboga U2508 Power Table feed

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Good day all,

I need some help with my Arboga U2508 mill/drill press. I got a kind of stuck in overhauling my mill. I figured out, that the worm that sits on the electric motor shaft of the table feed gear box is worn as well as the driven bronze wheel. There are spare parts available, but cost about 500 $. Does anybody have a manual containing a sectional drawing and parts list for this gearbox? Below you got two pics to get an idea what I´am talking about. Thanks for watching



Cheers,

Detlef




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Deckel FP2 LB Usable Arbor Length?

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I finally got around to playing with the FP2 LB I got a while back in horizontal mode. It came with a number of tool holders including two arbors which appear to be integral to their ISO 40 mounts with arbor lengths of 21 and 27 inches from the face of the bases to the bearing ends. Problem is that according to my manual and the internal stop, the head/ram is only permitted to extend 250mm/10". The arbors appear to be of the same vintage and degree of wear as the rest of the holders but the other tooling is all marked "Lovejoy Tooling", whereas the maker of the arbors is not apparent. Did the seller just throw those long arbors in to perplex me or by accident, or is there something I just don't get? If these won't work on my machine, is there a market and a rough value for them?

Thanks

Interesting milling head; what's its purpose?

Deckel FP4NC Shuts Down

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I have a Deckel FP4NC which has been sitting idle in my shop for about 3 yrs. I kept it powered up from time to time but never put it to work until recently. I started cutting a long cycle with short moves and after maybe 30 minutes of running the spindle brake clamped and the machine shutdown but not off. I hiot the start button and the clamps unlocked and I ran the program again and after 30 or so minutes it shut off again. This time I had to power down the machine and restart. It lost my XYZ cooridinates and they reset to zero (I dont know if this is normal or if it is supposed to retain that. I would assume it would) I then rezeroed and started the machine and after another 30 minutes the same thing. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

Trying to locate M8 Tapered pull dowel pins

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Hello
Can anyone advise me on where to purchase M8 Tapered pull dowel pins.
There are two of these used to locate a support bracket on the rear head stock of my Deckel FP2 .

I have been able to find straight M8 pull dowels but not tapered.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Shoukry
Montreal

I need bearing from vertical head on FP1 (bevel gear shaft bearings) source??

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I have the bevel bear shaft out of the top of the vertical head on a FP1 as I had that old roller skate steel bearing sound from them.
On inspection the top bearing is shot.
Is there a recommendation for this bearing?
Can I just call a supplier in US and order up or is a certain class of bearing needed that I should insure to match?

Both bearings are the same and marked with German-FAG-6008P5 -W-B on the outer race

The dust shield is marked with FAG-6008ZR

Thanks all

Verifycation of the software package of a FP4NC Dialog4

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Can you please check the Software Version from the pictures please.
I am afraid that there are some versions which doesnt match.

If possible can you name the correct versions from the card(s) which doesnt match , so that i will be able to fix it.

Regards Michael

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Deckel 40 taper morse 4 adapter

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I just lucked into an FP2 to complement (likely replace) my older FP1. Is there merit in seeking a Deckel 40 taper: Morse 4 adapter to use my Wohlhaupter and MT4 collets or should I retool from scratch?

By selling the FP1 I would lose the slotting head and complete collection of tooling. It makes for an expensive slotter if that's all I ever use it for. Machine is a 1948 change gear model.

Greg

DIsplay shows line of code and then machine shuts down

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I have finally got my FP4NC running and now I've run into a new problem. After a period of time 3 or 4 minutes of perfect machine operation, all of the sudden on the display I start seeing the g code start to fill the screen starting from the top left. After about three lines of this code the machine justs shuts down. It seems to do it at about the same place every time in the program. Could this be a memory error or something else?

Deckel 2037 universal table cleaning = pictures

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I had to use a Deckel FP1 table for slotting but it needed a good cleaning first, so I made a few pictures. Hope you guys like this Deckel strip-show!





Chips are everywere.


Bad smelling oil and grease

Where there every any stud gripper options for the Deckel NC?

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It seems unlikely, but were grippers ever offered for the FPxNC machines other than the standard one with which we are all familiar? I am particularly interested in the ISO or ANSI B-5 or perhaps DIN 69872. The reason is to gain commonality with my DMG so I can use the same holders in both.

Deckle LK or FP Jig Grinding Spindle Motor Controller?

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Has anyone ever seen the controller or power supply for the Jig Grinding Spindle for sale here in the USA?

I have one and I'm on the fence if I should sell it off or trade it for some other Deckel items that I need or just keep it.

What would be harder to find, the Jig Grinding Head or the control cabinet, any ideas on value?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Kevin

FP2 gearbox noise?

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Hi. My machine is a 1960's FP2 which suddenly developed a noise from the gearbox area after I had let the 'Y' axis hit its stop and break the shear pin. I replaced the shear pin and all the feeds work fine. At lower speeds, the machine is fine but at higher speeds (800+) after a short while, there was a bit of a screeching sound like a siezing bearing so i stopped the machine immediately. The spindles seemed to be free so i started the machine from lowest speed and ran at all of the lower speeds without issue spending several minutes at each. After engaging the higher speed range, the noise appeared soon at 800rpm. I removed the vertical spindle head to eliminate that but the problem still exists. It sounds in the upper half of the machine so i suspect a gearbox bearing or bush. All oil levels are correct to the sightglasses. Anyone had a similar issue or got any ideas? How difficult is it to access the gearbox? I have Alan's CD but can only find pictures of the gearbox.
Cheers Dave

Dialog 11 hangs after CMOS CHECKSUM OK

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When transferring a program to my FP4-60T (dialog 11) today, the transfer suddenly stopt .
After I aborted the transmission, with intentions of trying it again, the control froze and didn’t respond to any key anymore.
So, I shut down the control and switched both of the main switches off.
When rebooting, all checks in the selftest are checked and okay, but after that the control hangs and displays the following message: CMOS CHECKSUM OK.

On the NSV, F2 is shown on the 7-segment displays.

Also none of the LED's on the NPC are turned on. When I reboot again and press the reset button on the NPC, the run LED turns on, but the control still hangs with the same message displayed.

Does anybody have a list with NSV error codes or know's how to solve the problem? I do have the orange book, but there is nothing in it about the Grundig SPS (PLC) unit, only about the machine and the Bosch drives.

Don’t know what the F2 code means and if it normally appears when the machine is working fine.
I believe when rebooting that FF is shown briefly.

It’s a bummer because I was just working on a few parts for a new customer…

Thanks, Paul
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FP2NC Dynapath Delta 20 positioning problem

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I have a Deckel FP2NC with a Dynapath Delta 20 controller.

I have been trying to get a simple CAM program (Dolphin Partmaster v11) to play nice with my FP2NC, and have been running into some issues, which now seem to have spread over to the machine conversational control. Because of this, my first thought is that the CAM program somehow coded a parameter change of some type, which is now causing issues.

I have limited experience programming with this control. My last control was an Anilam Crusader M, which I was fair at programming through the conversational mode.

The problem I am having currently is this: When I program a positioning event at the beginning of a short test program, I get a "*" next to the auxiliary axis A, in the position display, and the machine will neither move, nor progress to the next event. My understanding is that the "*" indicates the machine is in the process of positioning this. The problem is, I have not programmed movement in this axis, nor do I have an auxiliary axis installed. I did not have this issue prior to loading a program into the control from the CAM software. I successfully loaded a program, but there were again positioning issues that kept me from actually running the program.

Does anyone have an idea as to how to solve this? I'm assuming it's some type of dope-slapper, which when solved I'll feel really dumb for having missed.

Restoration done on an FP1

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Hello all,

It has taken over a year but finally the job is done.
My FP1 is back in business.

I'll have to spread the pictures over various posts because of the 5 pics limit.

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Precision Boring Head for milling on FP2?

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I bought an old FP2 for a very good price, unseen. I saw it today at the freight depot. It's only head is the precision boring head from the LK jig bore machines, and it looks like it has been used hard as a vertical milling head.

i would be surprised if the internals in this head are up to heavy duty work. Can anyone comment on doing what I assume will be a needed overhaul of this head or continuing to employ it as a general milling head?

i will of course start hunting for the correct vertical head.

(The machine also has a non genuine but workable horizontal arbor support)
included is an extensive collection of tooling, including the complete set of Deckel SK40 collets and adapters

Thanks

Greg
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